ALIEN AUTOPSY RE-VISITED
It was 1993 when I was first contacted by London businessman Ray Santilli. He is of course the man responsible for bringing the alien autopsy film into the public domain. Little did I think then that I would be still trying to get to the bottom of this infamous/famous film in 2007, but I am. It has been a frustrating task at times to say the least, but I am proud to have stayed the course. I have of course been assisted by many other researchers down the years, these include; Michael Hesemann, Maurizio Baiata, Ed Gehrman, Tim Matthews and numerous others around the world. There has been one other researcher that I must give credit to as well and that is Mark Center in the USA. Mark has been involved almost from the beginning and when others threw in the towel he still came out fighting. I owe him a big thank you in many different ways.
On March 20th 2007 I conducted a telephone interview with Ray Santilli. This has been published in several magazines around the world. The full interview is now located on my web site, (address below) During that telephone interview on March 20th we touched upon the area of whether or not Ray Santilli actually had any ‘real’ frames of film depicting the alleged alien creature. All that had been seen so far were bits of film but with no alien visible. Santilli of course stated quite clearly that he did have these frames and I quote, “The next time you come to London, I will show them to you. No problem at all”. It goes without saying that I was intrigued if nothing else and decided to take Ray up on his offer as soon as I could.
If anyone has had any dealings with Ray Santilli they will know how difficult and frustrating this can be at times. He is a very busy man and it is often difficult if not impossible to tie him down to a definite meeting date. However, I persevered and took Ray up on his offer. To this effect I arranged to meet Ray Santilli for lunch in London on June 22nd. Ray’s business premises are in London and I live 200 miles north of the capital, so I decided to take the train to London instead of driving there and back. Ray did say that his business partner Gary Shoefield may join us but he could not be certain of that.
The arrangements were made and I duly travelled to London on the train on June 22nd. Arriving at Kings Cross station at twelve noon I took a taxi to Marleybone station where I had arranged to meet Ray Santilli. I arrived there at around 12.45 pm and called Ray on his mobile. His office is quite close by and he appeared round the corner in a matter of minutes. After greeting we walked over the road to a local restaurant and we were indeed joined by Gary Shoefield. I have to say the meeting was extremely pleasant, full of laughter and I was able to supply them with a signed copy of my book ‘ALIEN AUTOPSY INQUEST’.
It wasn’t long before we were discussing matters directly relating to the alien autopsy film. Ray and Gary both confirmed that there was a time around ten years ago that they both pulled away from it due to the ‘nasty-side’ of UFO research. Apparently they had even had deaths threats. I can confirm at least some of this myself as I have had to endure a torrent of falsehoods from so-called UFO researchers. They made it quite clear, like they always had done, that their prime focus has always been the commercial aspects of the alien autopsy film.
Ray Santilli moved on and said that maybe the time and the climate is right to move forward with the film. He maintains that his story of how he acquired the film is correct, and that their ‘restoration’ of the film was just that and nothing more. Ray is open to ideas of how best to move forward. I know he has said this type of thing before so only time will tell if anything comes of it now.
I did of course remind Ray that one of my reasons for travelling to London was to see the alleged frames of film depicting the alien creature. Ray had walked into the restaurant carrying a large leather shoulder bag. Sure enough, from out of this bag Ray removed a large ‘perspex’ picture-type frame. In this transparent frame there was five or six separate sets of black and white film cells. In total there were probably around 20 film cells, possibly more, I did not count them. Ray handed this to me along with a hand-held magnifying glass and allowed me to examine them. The light was a bit too dim in the restaurant so I was allowed to take this outside into the sunlight totally unaccompanied to view them better. I could now quite clearly see that these frames of film did indeed depict the alleged alien creature. It was lying on a slab; it had a pot-belly, large head and possibly six fingers on its hand. At the far side of it there was what looked like ‘medical instruments’ in a tray. These frames or film cells were a little scratched in places and you could see the film sprocket holes down the side. This did indeed look pretty much like the creature we have all seen in the alien autopsy film.
After examining these frames for a while I returned to the restaurant and handed them back to Ray Santilli. I pointed out that I could now at least confirm that such frames did indeed exist but I could still not confirm their authenticity. There still had been no independent scientific testing of any frame with image on to positively attest to the age of the film. Ray seemed to appreciate my comments on this but he and Gary are quite happy to keep the ‘mystery’ going and not have them authenticated. This still leaves me exasperated and we did have a conversation about this. Again, all I van confirm is that frames with a clear image of the alleged alien creature on them do definitely exist. Whether they are authentic or are another ‘restoration’ or an outright fabrication I cannot say. What I will say is that I am as always willing to work with Ray Santilli or anyone else for that matter, to try and get to the bottom of this whole affair. I’ve been trying since 1993 and I have no intention of stopping now.
After some more of Gary Shoefield’s very bad alien jokes (they must be the worst I’ve ever heard. Sorry Gary) it was time for me to depart. I had a train to catch and a taxi ride back to Kings Cross. There was just time for a few quick photographs and I was ready to leave. Just before I did, Ray Santilli, quite without any kind of warning gave me two frames of film. They do not depict the creature; instead these were shown as part of the Sky One documentary broadcast on satellite TV last year. It was entitled ‘Eamon Investigates – Alien Autopsy’. I took part in this documentary and during which Ray Santilli produced some alleged ‘real’ frames. One does seem to depict the creature on the slab, but another appears to show two men wearing US Navy dress hats. Ray claims these were part of the film footage he purchased from ‘the cameraman’ and wondered if there was any way the person on these frames could be identified. They are reproduced here for your attention. I know some will say this is another smokescreen or red herring by Ray Santilli and they may well be correct, but as an investigator can I turn down the offer of trying to identify the man on the film ? I don’t think so. I know it’s a very long shot, but do you recognise this man or can you suggest any way we could use this image to find out who he might be ? Your suggestions are most welcome.
So that is the alien autopsy re-visited. I can confirm that film with image of the creature does indeed exist. Ray Santilli still stands by their original story of how the film was acquired. Ray Santilli may engage again with the UFO community and we have a puzzle to solve, who is the man with the hat ? My research into this film so far has recently been published in a new book entitled ‘ALIEN AUTOPSY INQUEST’. It is of course available via Amazon. Signed copies (UK only) can be obtained from myself.
If you have any information about the Alien Autopsy Film, or if you can offer advice or assistance on how I might trace the man in the hat, then please contact me at:
Philip Mantle,
49 East Leigh Drive,
Tingley,
Nr Wakefield,
West Yorkshire,
England,
WF3 1PF.
Email: philip@mantle8353.fsworld.co.uk
Web site: www.beyondroswell.com