Presented below we have more "confirmation" regarding the Alien Autopsy "authenticity." In light of some information which will be released very soon, I would regard this information with a high degree of skepticism, It could well be that the Alien Autopsy is a "re-creation" of an actual film, and in fact, this would have to be the case if this new information pans out as promised. We should know over the next few months.

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[CNI News thanks researcher and journalist Linda Moulton Howe for permission to reprint excerpts from her longer article which appears in the August-September 1998 edition of Nexus magazine. The full text of the article is posted on the web at http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/. The article was adapted from phone interviews first presented by Linda Howe on Art Bell's nationally syndicated "Dreamland" radio program on May 31, and on Bell's "Coast to Coast" program on June 1-2, 1998.

Knowledgeable readers will note strong similarities between the claims of this source ("Kewper") and previously published claims of Bob Lazar, Col. Philip Corso and others. CNI News cautions that these claims remain, for the most part, unverified and subject to doubt. Only time will tell if Kewper is part
of an important stream of revelation, or just another purveyor of disinformation.]

by Linda Moulton Howe
Copyright c 1998 LMH Productions
Phn (215) 491-9840; Fax (215) 491-9842

Since my new book, "Glimpses of Other Realities Volume II: High Strangeness," was released to U.S. bookstores on April 1, 1998, I have heard from several ex-military and ex-intelligence people from around the country. In May, I was put in phone contact with a man I will simply call "Kewper" at his request. Kewper served as a First Lieutenant with the U.S. Army Signal Corps and was a CIA administrator at an Army base in the southeastern U.S. from 1957 to 1960. He provided his DD-214 and Certificate of Discharge along with a 1956 newspaper article about his being drafted. That civilian name and Army Signal Corps base of operations were consistent with the Army discharge papers.

Back in the 1957 to 1960 period, Kewper taught radio operations and cryptography to Army Signal Corps officers under a false identification assigned to him by the CIA. In addition to teaching, Kewper's CIA boss at the Army base asked Kewper to help analyze Top Secret cases gathered for the Air Force's Project Blue Book investigation of unidentified flying objects.

When I first talked with Kewper, he said his security oaths expired 30 to 35 years after he got out of the Army and CIA in 1960. That period ended around 1995. Therefore, he said, he now feels he's not doing anything wrong by discussing with me his extraordinary first-hand knowledge and experiences
concerning "extraterrestrials," as he said they were referred to in the Top Secret classified files he had read and analyzed.

Howe: You were getting the reports that Project Blue Book was collecting. [Were you] actually handling the files that were unexplained?

Kewper: Yes. Probably not all of them, but at least we were one of the groups investigating the unexplained. Anything they didn't explain would be sent to Fort Belvoir in Virginia and then farmed out from there to other military. The FBI was involved with some of the things, too, I know, because FBI would show up on some of these peoples' doorsteps.

Howe: In the course of this work from 1957 to 1960, did you see any 16-mm films related to this phenomenon?

Kewper: The only film I saw is the one that has been released in the last couple of years showing an alien autopsy. I saw that very same film in 1957.

Howe: And what were the circumstances in which you saw this?

Kewper: Apparently someone at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, sent that film to my boss. The team viewed the thing one Saturday morning and he had to send it right back to Fort Belvoir again. But we did see that one.

Howe: How was the autopsy/dissection film of the six-fingered humanoid presented to you? What was the explanation of how this had occurred?

Kewper: They just said that this was done at Roswell, the same day or day after... I think the craft was picked up at night. Some time during the next day this autopsy was performed there at the military base, and also an autopsy was performed in town in the little clinic or hospital they have there.

Howe: That would contradict the statement released with the autopsy film by the alleged cameraman, who said he was there and filmed the wreckage, and that about two weeks later, I believe, he was asked to go some place to film the autopsy dissection. Do you know how to reconcile these two pieces of
information?

Kewper: No, I don't. It mentioned right in the film that most of the film was done right there at the military base outside of Roswell, and that some little parts of the film were done at the local hospital or clinic.

Howe: What was the briefing to you about these six-fingered humanoids?

Kewper: There was little info in regards to that. The film was about 10 years old at that time, and they just said this was the only film that we have of the aliens and the body.

Howe: Was the film you saw in black and white or color?

Kewper: It was black and white.

Howe: Did you ever see any color film or photographs of these beings?

Kewper: No, not of the beings.

Howe: This was your first visual sort of experience with something non-human. Do you remember what you thought at the time?

Kewper: Yeah, I was kind of perplexed. I thought: How can this be? How can these beings come here? While I was there, the whole three years, we never saw any information about where they came from and what they were doing here. My boss and I were both wondering about that. Why were they here? Why would they come here? And where were they from? During that period of time, as far as I
know, the government had no idea where they were from or what they were trying to do here.

Howe: Were you ever exposed to any other information [about EBEs] between 1957 and 1960?

Kewper: When I went to Area 51 in 1958, I did see another type of being that has been termed a "grey," I believe.

Howe: Can you describe that experience?

Kewper: We were out there for a meeting of  CIA people. They had meetings right in the main buildings of the Air Force, a little base they had there. We went out to Groom Lake and the two areas they had out there. They showed it to us -- but only to the five of us [that were involved with Project Blue Book].
We landed at Area 51, [and] then we got into a small minibus. They took us about 10 miles and stopped at the first special area. They took us into the area there, and they had U-2s and also the SR-71 Blackbirds -- I believe they were flying them at that time [probably the SR-71's predecessor, the A-12 --ed.] Then we got back on the bus and went about another eight miles to the final area, where a colonel met us and took us on a tour. He took us first of all down a walkway into a hangar area that had been carved out. It might have been a natural cave to start out with, but at least it was carved out of the mountainside area. It was not extremely large.

Howe: Was this the Papoose mountain range?

Kewper: I wouldn't really know. I don't think I ever questioned what the mountains were.

Howe: So this colonel joined you and your CIA boss and three other CIA men in your program? Were there only six of you?

Kewper: Yes. As we passed through different areas, naturally there were other workers and scientists working on different things, and office personnel.

Howe: Did you understand the reason that your boss was having you do this tour with this colonel?

Kewper: Yes. They wanted us to see the craft so when we looked at pictures, trying to identify fake pictures from the real thing, we could pick out the "garbage can covers" from the real craft.

Howe: Can you describe exactly what you saw?

Kewper: As soon as we got in, the first thing we did see were two small craft.

Howe: What color were they?

Kewper: They were silver; not real shiny and bright, but basically silver.

Howe: What was the diameter?

Kewper: About 18 or 20 feet. They were quite small.

Howe: Were you allowed to go over and touch them?

Kewper: No. We were on a walkway area and couldn't get down over to where the craft were actually sitting.

Howe: How many others could you see?

Kewper: At least about seven, I think. There were some larger ones that were in the rear towards the end that we could see down there because they were probably 50 to 60 feet in diameter.

Howe: Could you see any characteristics on these? Were any different from another?

Kewper: They were all disc-shaped, but some had larger bottom areas that extended down, the same as the top. And they were different colors. The larger ones in the rear were a real deep, dark grey color, and some of the other ones were lighter in color, maybe a light- or medium-brown. The larger ones in the
rear were sitting on metal saw-horses to hold them up off the ground.

Howe: Did the colonel explain, or did he have any understanding of the propulsion system of the extraterrestrial craft?

Kewper: That question was asked, and he mentioned it was electromagnetic-antigravitational type engines. But some of the craft had other propulsion systems also. He didn't go into great detail on other propulsions. Apparently it was like antimatter propulsion on one of the units. I saw they'd tried to
reverse-engineer one craft, so part of it was taken apart. He was explaining to us that there really was no physical motor in that thing. The entire disc was like an electronic circuit, and the aliens had to be inside of this disc to complete the electronic circuit to make it fly. The Area 51 people knew
that, because they had tried to make that one fly. The whole saucer itself was like the drive of the ship. It was all coated with nickel inside and it was like a giant electronic circuit. And the aliens were tied right in with it; they had headbands they wore that had detectors, and they had finger-type board control where they could fly the craft.

Howe: Those are the hand-imprinted, six-fingered control panels that were with that autopsy film?

Kewper: Yes.

Howe: Did you see the panels themselves actually there with the craft?

Kewper: Yes. They were there with the craft. They were trying to figure out the electronic circuitry because there was no wiring of any kind that they could see. But later on when they had it at Groom Lake, they had a couple of scientists there who used microscopes to check over the fingertip-control harnessing and found little fibers going out from it. They found out then that it was a fiber optic type of electrical transmission throughout the craft.

Howe: All done with light?

Kewper: Yes, it was light. The report I read originally said that when they looked inside the craft, it was glowing with a real thin light inside from all the circuitry fiber optics. Reverse-engineering of that is apparently where we got fiber optics from.

Howe: What was the colonel saying to you about these discs?

Kewper: He just stated that these are some of the craft we have picked up and captured in different parts of the world. Apparently some of them were even brought in from overseas, but I gathered that most were captured within the U.S. He then mentioned that we were going to another smaller hangar area to see the being, this extraterrestrial being, that they had there at that time.

Howe: What happened next?

Kewper: We went from the hangar area out to a covered walkway area and into an office complex, a bunch of small rooms and offices. They had a special room for viewing that had one-way windows. We could look through the window into this small office, and the being that was in there was not able to see us because there was a mirror on his side.

Howe: And what happened?

Kewper: They said we could go in and talk to this being, and at that time I chose not to go in. Years later, I wished I had, but I chose not to go in because they did tell us that the being spoke telepathically. So I chose to stay out, and the other four people did go in.

Howe: Can you describe the being exactly?

Kewper: The colonel called him a "grey". He had the large head and kind of slanted bigger eyes. He looked like he was wearing sunglasses because the lenses were real dark. He had kind of a slim face down to a peaked chin with just a little nose area, a tiny slit of a mouth and just holes in the side of
his head for ear openings.

Howe: About how tall?

Kewper: About five feet, something like that.

Howe: What was the skin like in color and texture?

Kewper: It was greyish looking, but fairly coarse, not like the smoothness of our skin.

Howe: What happened between your boss, the three CIA guys and the Colonel in that room, communicating with the being?

Kewper: My boss did ask him, "What are you doing here? And why do you come here?" The only answer he got was, "We are not here to conquer the Earth. We are not here to destroy anything. We are here to add knowledge to humans so they can gain more knowledge in different areas."

After he [the CIA boss] came out and we left, I asked him [where the being came from] and he said, "I don't remember what it was; it was a real long name." He'd asked if it was a part of [our] galaxy. The being answered back that it was not our galaxy, but a different galaxy.

Howe: How would they impart knowledge to us if they weren't making themselves public in a straightforward way?

Kewper: I remember my boss mentioning that he noted the creature was stretching the truth or lying just by the tone of the answer; that he wasn't telling the truth altogether, you know.

Howe: Did your boss and the other men explain to you how the telepathic process went? What did they experience?

Kewper: They said they definitely weren't hearing a thing through their ears, and that the voice they heard was right in the mind itself. They could put their fingers in their ears and they would still hear the being. One tried that; he plugged both ears to see if he could still hear the being, and he
could.

Howe: What was the sound of the being in his mind?

Kewper: He said the voice almost sounded like an electronically reproduced voice. And now, of course, we have computers that can talk to us and answer the phone with a computer voice. Back in those days, that type of thing was just beginning with computers. He said it didn't sound like a human voice: it
sounded like an electronic voice.

Howe: Why would the concept of a telepathic being bother you?

Kewper: Well, naturally, it's something I'd never run across before; that would be a certain amount of bother, you know.

Howe: Did you ever learn in your work for the CIA what the relationship was between the six-fingered beings and the grey being?

Kewper: Nope, never did.

Howe: Did someone explain why this being was even being kept there?

Kewper: No. They wouldn't tell us why he was kept there, how long he had been there or anything like that.

Howe: Who at Area 51 seemed to be in control of this being? Which agency?

Kewper: It was the Air Force. The Air Force colonel is the one we talked to.

Howe: Did this colonel or anybody explain to you what their perception was of this grey being from the standpoint of whether there was any kind of a threat?

Kewper: No, they didn't really consider it a big threat, but there was always this: "We don't think they are going to be harmful to us, but we don't really know. We can't say for sure that they are not trying to invade, or checking us all out and checking out our military." Even at that time, the saucer sightings were always around classified areas and military bases, that type of thing. So it looked almost like they were scouting, you know.

Howe: Were [the beings] referred to as "extraterrestrials"?

Kewper: Yes, they were. Most of the time they referred to the one out [at Area 51] as a "grey".

Howe: Did they have any live six-fingered humanoids anywhere?

Kewper: No, not that I know of. That was one of the questions I asked the military man on the way in there. He'd mentioned they had a being that we were going to look at, and I asked if it was the same being as Roswell. He said no. And I asked if they had any beings like at Roswell, and he said no.

Howe: In 1957 when you were shown the six-fingered humanoid film, did it identify where exactly the six-fingered humanoids had been retrieved from?

Kewper: They just said "near Roswell".

Howe: But they didn't specify?

Kewper: No, they didn't specify that. They just said "near Roswell", and I understand they had two or three craft they had picked up there that same summer of 1947.

Howe: Did anyone talk about the weather balloon story as being deliberately floated to obscure...?

Kewper: Yes, they did, and they said it was a cover story. In 1958 [while visiting Area 51] I asked [the Colonel], "Why do you continue to cover this up?" He said it was covered originally because the Cold War was just starting. Somebody up in the government -- it was probably President Truman -- had
requested a tight cover on this because with the Cold War starting. And having aliens flying around, he thought, would be too much for the American public all at once. But it was perpetuated, and even to this day they are still covering it with balloon stories.

Howe: Now it is 1998. This is 40 years after you first saw the 16-mm black and white film of the six-fingered humanoid dissection, and there still appears to be a policy of silence and denial about this extraterrestrial interaction. Why do you think the government has not told the United States and the world what they know?

Kewper: You would think they would have by now. But I know that at the same time, through the Cold War era back in the 1950s, I was involved with the CIA in a lot of cases [regarding] these unidentified flying objects. [I] did contact and work with even the Russians during that time, to see what they
had, because the Russians had contacted us in regards to UFOs. They had UFO sightings also. They contacted us because they thought it might be some kind of advanced flying craft that we had, and they were calling us to warn us to keep them out of their area. We told them they were not ours.

 Howe: If Russia and the United States were secretly trying to talk with each other about an extraterrestrial presence, did you ever have any further information over the last 40 years about our government's understanding of the agenda or intent of these beings?

Kewper: I know that we have worked together with Russia on this, especially since Gorbachev; and that Russia is involved with particle beam weapons, too, from satellite and from ground. We had actually given them the particle beam weapon to be able to shoot down any of the saucer craft.

Howe: But why would we try to shoot down craft if we perceived these beings to be benevolent?

Kewper: Well, it could be something that happened since that time. I believe it would have happened over the [former] Soviet Union, because I know they had a big craft go over that was almost like a mother ship, and they tried to shoot it down. But the thing just shot all the aircraft that they had pursuing it, right out of the air in just a few seconds, with lasers or whatever they [the aliens] had -- death rays, something like that.

Howe: What is the source of your information on this?

Kewper: This is through my friend, through my boss's son. When he talked to me in 1993, he mentioned that they'd had an ugly incident there, where the aliens had actually attacked some type of military base.

Howe: Did you ever learn what type of being was in that craft?

Kewper: No, I didn't. Nobody did. It was a flyover-type thing and nothing landed, so no one would know what was actually in there. But I know the big craft contained many small saucer craft; it was almost like an aircraft carrier with airplanes on it.

Howe: So, in summary, you went from 1957 to 1960 seeing these highly classified reports about extraterrestrial beings, technology and craft. And yet, when you left the Army Signal Corps and CIA work in 1960, there was still no understanding about the relationship between those beings or why they were there?

Kewper: Yes, that's right. At that time there was a big question mark as to why they were here. In some cases, apparently some of the U.S. sightings, they were tremendously friendly.

Howe: Friendly?

Kewper: Yes, friendly. And, of course, there were all the abduction things that came out later. There weren't any in that original Blue Book file that I had seen at that time.

Howe: Did you ever see any references to animal mutilations or unusual deaths?

Kewper: Yes. At that time, we had it out in Colorado, I think. I saw some of those. Different parts of the animal were taken like samples -- the stomachs in some, sex organs in others; and [they were] apparently mutilated with a laser weapon of some kind that left very precise cutting edges.

Howe: Did you read about any such cases in that 1957 to 1960 time period?

Kewper: Yes, especially from Colorado.

Howe: Was there speculation on the part of the Central Intelligence Agency or the military about the relationship between these unusual animal deaths and the extraterrestrials?

Kewper: Yes. The only thought at that time, if I remember correctly, is that they [extraterrestrials] were taking samples of these various animals on the Earth just to see more or less what their different functions were...

Howe: Do you think that this story should be told in its entirety today?

Kewper: Yes, I think it should. I think it would be helpful. We still have a lot of sightings to this day.

Howe: And this is why you're talking to me?

Kewper: Yes.

NOTE: If any readers have more information, please fax Linda Moulton Howe in the USA at (215) 491 9842, or write to her at: PO Box 300, Jamison, PA 18929-0300, USA

About the Author: Linda Moulton Howe graduated from Stanford University with a Masters Degree in Communication. She is a science and environmental reporter for radio and television. Her film documentaries, "A Strange Harvest" and "Strange Harvests 1993," explored the worldwide animal mutilations phenomenon. Her books include "An Alien Harvest," "Glimpses of Other Realities, Volume I:
Facts & Eyewitnesses," and, most recently, "Glimpses of Other Realities, Volume II: High Strangeness." Linda Howe's investigations have taken in such diverse subjects as crop circles, the chupacabras mystery, humanity's hidden history, and the evidence for UFOs and ETs, including research into government knowledge and cover-up of non-human intelligence's interacting with our planet. 

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