06/16/1997

Robert Morning Sky, self described Rebel, Renegade and Nobody, has been making a name for himself since coming out of virtual obscurity (pre 1995) to currently making personal appearances around the world. Morning Sky (full blooded American Indian: half Hopi, half Apache), makes far reaching claims regarding our human history; where we may have come from, what we have been told, and where we may be going. What Morning Sky offers up are only his suggestions as to what may have been, what might be now, and what might possibly happen. Publicly he makes no bones about it, "Don't believe me! "If you have a firm grasp, a belief that you find comfort in, don't believe me!" "I want the demented ones!"

I urge you to hook up to his Web Site and research his information, I cannot do it justice, nor will I attempt to critic his work. It's far to expansive and it covers far too many disciplines for me to even began to comment on.

The reason I've included this man and his research on our web site is because:

1: I like the man on a personal basis.

2: He includes something I'm very familiar within his research material, the Alien Autopsy Footage.

The following is meant to be an example of why every one of us should question everything, anybody tells us. To his credit Mr. Morning Sky has given me his full support in my research and presentation of this information. This, if for no other reason , should endear you to him, in that he's willing to come out publicly and state that:

1: I may have been mistaken.

2: I made a mistake.

This information does not discount Morning Sky's suggestions regarding the First Alien Autopsy Footage. Material was released (found in part on this site) to the public in 1995, however, it seems that Morning Sky may be mistaken as to exactly what material he actually saw. At the most, our exchange puts in to question the common practice (running rampant in the UFO field since it's inception), of "just" believing what somebody says because:

1. You like them.

2. Some of what they say is (or may be) true.

3. Everybody else agrees with what they say.

4. We can't disprove it or explain it so it must be true.

5. Jumping on a band wagon to become popular.

6. We're just to lazy to look into it.

Robert Morning Sky is what he say's he is, a Nobody. He is also one of the few people that I've meet doing research in this crazy field, whom freely trades his work with me, tells me everything he knows, listens to me when I have something of relevance to add to the conversation, and holds no grudges, so far as I can tell ( unless your talking about the UFO community at large, but you'll have to ask Robert about that!). He also does his homework, man... does he do his homework. Agree with him or not, his research can not be easily discounted.

Time Line

In 1995 Robert Morning Sky released an audio tape and text transcript called "Alien Sex." In this audio tape Morning Sky states that at the 1995 UFO Congress, held in Mesquite, NV, he was in attendance during two public presentations of material regarding the not-yet-released First Alien Autopsy Footage (FAAF). For those of you that may not know about this footage here's a quick review.

>>>The story goes that the alleged Alien Autopsy Cameraman shot footage from not one but at least 3 alien autopsy's. Ray Santilli "bought" footage from the first two autopsy's. He gave the First Autopsy to his financial backer and he released the Second Autopsy to broadcasters around the world (Fox showed it in America). Video taped stills taken from the FAAF were given to two people, American Bob Shell and Italian . had his stills published in the magazine "Alieni" much to Santilli's dismay..<<<

Morning Sky states that he was in attendance during the showing of this material on two occasions during the conference. The first time he estimates that he was with approximately 400 people when he alleges that German UFO researcher Mike Hesemann showed motion video from the FAAF. The second time Morning Sky recalls was during a Bob Shell presentation of the material from the FAAF. Morning Sky left the room before Shell showed the footage, telling the people in attendance of his dissatisfaction with the material, "...this is a discretion of a Star Elder," or words to this affect.

The crux of the Morning Sky "Alien Sex" material revolves around an anomalous white object ( Morning Sky calls it a tendril), which is removed from the vaginal area of the body. Morning Sky suggests that this body is a future hybrid of we humans and the "tendril" is what the sex organ would look like after a few hundred thousand years of evolution. He suggests that we would no longer be male or female, we would be both, although we would be more female, in many respects, than male.

Bob Shell has in his possession these video taped stills (uncensored, unlike the scanned examples from the magazine found on this web site), an he corroborates Morning Sky's observations that something is indeed removed from the vaginal area of the body (Shell has not seen "motion video", only "video taped" stills). That's the story in a nut shell (sorry Bob!), now comes the interesting part.

Before I get into this you might be asking yourself, Why do you care?" Well, if that "moving video" footage was shown at the conference I feel that I would have read about it, or heard about it, but I never did. If the rumors are true, this footage has a lot of new information in it and it's supposed to be in focus. I also thought I might be able to secure a copy of it, I seem to be able to obtain hard to find video tapes, a practice which has turned into a passion of mine. I'm of the opinion that this "moving video" was never shown at the conference or even in the USA, and I have to know the truth. The whole reason I'm into this UFO stuff is to stop silly rumors before they become urban legends and take root.. Morning Sky says he saw it and that's where the story started, and ends...Until I heard his audio tape.

Morning Sky is certain he saw "moving video" of this footage at the conference. At least a couple of his co-workers are positive they saw it too. Morning Sky gave me a list of people for me to ask and corroborate his story. This is what I found out. All the people Morning Sky had me contact are in disagreement with his story. The following is the list of these contacts, I've included other people who were in attendance during the FAAF presentation whom I located on my own:

Robert O. Dean (UFO Researcher) "I saw stills on video tape."

Wendelle Stevens (UFO Researcher and UFO Congress organizer and promoter) "I saw 5 or 6 video taped stills."

Donald Ware (Writer, wrote about the conference in the Sodona Journal in 1995) "I don't really remember, whatever Bob Brown says we saw is what I saw." see Browns response

Bob Shell (Alien Autopsy investigator) "I'm the guy that showed the video taped stills."

Denise Murphy (Wrote the Debris Footage paper) "I saw video taped stills."

Theresa Carlson (MUFON Member and heavily involved in the Autopsy investigation) "Motion video was not shown, only video taped stills."

Bob Brown (UFO Congress organizer and promoter) "It didn't happen. Video taped stills were shown by Bob Shell."

As you can see, not only did Morning Sky's recommended contacts disagree with his accretion but even the UFO Congress organizers and promoters say it just didn't happen that way. Material was shown, just not "moving video."

Morning Sky is of the impression that Michael Hesemann was the person responsible for showing the "moving video" footage. Morning Sky has informed my that Hesemann has not responded to repeated requests for clarification. At the Italian UFO Conference, held in June of 1997, Bob Shell told me that he talked to Hesemann about this situation and Hesemann told Shell that he couldn't understand where in the world Morning Sky got this idea from. Shell told me, "Mike Hesemann has never seen the FAAF in a "motion video" format. He's only seen "video taped" stills."

In my opinion, Robert Morning Sky did not see "motion video" from the FAAF. For whatever reasons, he thinks he saw "motion video," and where he gets this from I'll probably never know. Not only did every one of the contacts he supplied me discount his story completely but a few went so far as to say that the video taped stills were shown on only one occasion. A couple of Alien Autopsy Re-creations were shown during the conference. Could Morning Sky have possibly mistaken of those for the FAAF? I doubt that. He saw "something" because he knew specific information contained in the stills.

In the end, Morning Sky's suggestions as to what that tendril might mean is not discounted one iota by this "clarification of facts." What this exercise does bring to light is the idea that there is always a possibility that we may get so involved in what we are researching that we start to see and hear what we need to see and hear to substantiate our position.

What did Robert Morning Sky see at the 1995 UFO Congress? Everyone I talked to say he saw "video taped stills." He says he saw "motion video." I hope this example will help you in separating the wheat from the chaff while researching your chosen phenomena. At the very least, please use this exchange as an example of how rumors, or mistaken observations can get a life of their own, and if left unchallenged, they can stir up the already muddy waters.

Dear Mark,

Thank you for your fax...As always I appreciate your words and efforts.

In every workshop, lecture and address, I always begin by advising the audience that I am a "Nobody"...That one must not accept what I say, That I must be challenged and that I must have my work examined carefully. I insist that everyone do this...But I also ask that they extend the same scrutiny to every other researchers. Those of us in this field are telling an extra-ordinary story...And as such we must present extraordinary evidence. Let only those who provide such evidence remain standing...And I place myself at the top of the list. If my work is seriously flawed, it should be ignored. Truth is not an exercise in Faith. Truth is not based on its messenger...Truth stands alone, regardless of who may express it.

To that regard, I make the following statement:

It appears from the experience of the others who attended the Mesquite Conference that my comment on the additional Santilli Autopsy Footage was wrong. While I do believe that I had seen moving footage, apparently it was video of still photographs that was shown. I shall be the first to admit that I have apparently erred. It is important to me that I offer no explanation or excuse for this error. I insist, however, that my report, "Alien Sex", is in no way changed or diminished by my mistake...An autopsy film was shown displaying a tendril that was removed from a "crash victim"...That was the crux of the matter.

Robert Morning Sky
e-mail address: rmorningsky@home.com

On a personal note: Robert informed me that he was taken a back by the "vehement tone" the responders gave to my questioning. As well happen sometimes, the tone was mine, recounting what others had told me over the phone. In truth no one I talked to "vehemently denied" anything regarding the line questioning or Robert's observations, perceived or otherwise. In any case, Robert's high on my short list of fiduciary humans...In and out of this wild and crazy field.
A Letter I sent to Morning Sky